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  After Exiting the Witnesses - Are you O.K. Not Knowing about the Future ?

  by flipper in

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  it seems that religion has always been considered the opium of the people.

  or at least many tend to gravitate towards religion to have or solidify some sort of future with a supreme being overlooking them hoping to have a reward either in heaven or in the jehovah's witnesses case - living forever in a " paradise earth ".

  it seems that people can't just live day to day and let each day come to them with whatever happens.

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  Black Man

  Good thread!
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  How Would You Recommend Getting Rid Of Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  ....at your door?.

  my gf mistakenly took brochures/pamphlets and now they drop things in the doorway every week (at least).. any suggestions?

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  Black Man

  Lost Generation: that printout is BRILLIANT!
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  Crimes committed by JWs

  by Black Man in

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  hey all, i'm still embroiled in my ongoing debate w/a few jw's and now we're on this tangent where they are saying that jws are the most peaceful and law abiding people in comparison to other religious people.

  i said that's not true, there's been many news articles that detail various crimes committed by jws.

  i couldn't find anything right away when i did a google search, so can someone point me to some threads or links that contain recent and past articles of jw's in trouble w/the law or who have committed crimes?.

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  Hey all, I'm still embroiled in my ongoing debate w/a few JW's and now we're on this tangent where they are saying that JWs are the most peaceful and law abiding people in comparison to other religious people. I said that's NOT true, there's been many news articles that detail various crimes committed by JWs. I couldn't find anything right away when I did a Google search, so can someone point me to some THREADS or LINKS that contain recent and past articles of JW's in trouble w/the law or who have committed crimes?

  Thanks in advance, y'all.
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  What they DON'T tell you

  by Black Man in

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  hey everybody, i'm in the middle of an ongoing debate w/some jws and they are asserting that everyone knows what they're getting into when they are studying and getting baptized and that nobody forces anyone to become a jw and that you can leave anytime you want.

  ok, we know that's not true.

  how would you counter that argument?

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  Black Man

  Hey everybody, I'm in the middle of an ongoing debate w/some JWs and they are asserting that everyone knows what they're getting into when they are studying and getting baptized and that nobody forces anyone to become a JW and that you can leave anytime you want. Ok, we know that's NOT true. How would you counter that argument? What are some things that JW's DON'T tell you when you're studying but hit you with once you're baptized and indoctrinated?
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  Are You Raising An Introvert?

  by darth frosty in

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  its not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.

  it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.

  this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .

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  Black Man

  this goes up!
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  So......Obama IS a US citizen after all?!

  by Black Man in

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  april 27th, 201110:06 am etobama releases long-form birth certificateposted by:cnn white house producer shawna shepherd.

  by cnn's alan silverleib.

  washington (cnn) the white house released copies of president barack obama's original long-form birth certificate wednesday, seeking to put an end to persistent rumors that he was not born in theunited states.. "we do not have time for this kind of silliness," obama told reporters at the white house.. obama's long-form birth certificate [pdf].

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  April 27th, 2011 10:06 AM ET

  Obama releases long-form birth certificate

  Posted by:

  CNN White House Producer Shawna Shepherd

  By CNN's Alan Silverleib

  WASHINGTON (CNN) – The White House released copies of President Barack Obama's original long-form birth certificate Wednesday, seeking to put an end to persistent rumors that he was not born in theUnited States.

  "We do not have time for this kind of silliness," Obama told reporters at the White House.

  Obama's long-form birth certificate [PDF]

  "Normally I would not comment on something like this," the president said. But the country has "enormous challenges" that it will not be able to effectively meet "if we're distracted."

  The president ripped what he characterized as a recent focus on "side shows" and "carnival barkers."

  Obama released a shorter, legally binding "certificate of live birth" in 2008, but many opponents of the president continued to assert he was born overseas.

  The administration had to make a special request from the state ofHawaiito get the long-form birth certificate released, White House legal counsel Bob Bauer said. Typically, the state only releases what's called a certificate of live birth when people request a birth certificate.

  While the president has tried to make light of the controversy, the question has remained political red meat for some of his critics. A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll showed that nearly 75% of Americans believe Obama was definitely or probably born in theUnited States. More than four in 10 Republicans, however, believe he probably or definitely was not born inAmerica.

  The U.S. Constitution says only "natural born" citizens can become president - a vague clause that some members of the "birther" movement contend disqualifies Obama from the presidency, since they believe he was born overseas.

  "The president believed the distraction over his birth certificate wasn't good for the country," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer said. "It may have been good politics and good (television), but it was bad for the American people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country.

  "At a time of great consequence for this country - when we should be debating how we win the future, reduce our deficit, deal with high gas prices, and bring stability to the Middle East,Washington,D.C., was once again distracted by a fake issue," Pfeiffer said. "The president's hope is that with this step, we can move on to debating the bigger issues that matter to the American people and the future of the country."

  Pfeiffer told reporters that the so-called "birther debate" has been politically damaging to the Republican Party.

  Skeptics contend, among other things, that Obama was born in his father's home country ofKenya. Potential GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump recently seized on the issue, saying he had doubts about Obama's background.

  CNN investigation: Obama born in the U.S.

  Following the White House's release of the long-form birth certificate, Trump told reporters in New Hampshire Wednesday morning that he is "very proud" of himself for helping to bring about the release of the document.

  "I've accomplished something nobody else was able to accomplish," Trump said. "I'd want to look at (the birth certificate), but I hope it's true so that we can get on to much more important matters."

  Obama "should have (released the certificate) a long, long time ago," he said.

  Trump, a billionaire business tycoon and reality television star, blamed the media for repeatedly bringing up the issue. Trump, however, has frequently raised questions about Obama's birthplace during his climb in recent GOP primary polls.

  Allegations that Obama was not born in theUnited Stateshave been repeatedly discredited. A recent CNN investigation turned up no evidence to support the birther claims.

  http://whitehouse.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/
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  December 15th WT gives example of sister who quit her job so she could go to an convention.

  by life is to short in

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  i was beyond mad when i heard this.

  it is on page 30 of the wt.. it says "a pioneer named roxana is one who has seen how jehovah provides for his people.

  when she asked her employer for permission to take some days off to attend one of our conventions, he angrily retorted that if she went, he would fire her.

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  Intense progpaganda and intellectual dishonesty at its finest! Always hated these over-the-top exaggerated assaults on your intelligence. Like another poster said, the actions of this woman in the story and of those we've heard for years is irresponsible at the least, flat out retarded at worst.
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  1984 WT cover -- Watchtower's Final Failed Prediction?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

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  the infamous cover of that 1984 watchtower (27 years ago) was perhaps the last prediction / prophecy of the watchtower society.

  will there be any more or have they finally learned their lesson?

  some think they are like a race-track junkie and are addicted to predictions.

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  Black Man

  And that cover WOULD make a great print-out, billboard or flyer to hand out to thinking persons or brain-dead JWs.
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  1984 WT cover -- Watchtower's Final Failed Prediction?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
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  the infamous cover of that 1984 watchtower (27 years ago) was perhaps the last prediction / prophecy of the watchtower society.

  will there be any more or have they finally learned their lesson?

  some think they are like a race-track junkie and are addicted to predictions.

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  Black Man

  This is a BEAUTIFUL post, y'all. Thanks to everyone who worked and played a part in this! This internet thing is FANTASTIC!!
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  Governing Body Is On Their 'Apostate Warpath' Again

  by Cameron_Don in

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  will you heed jehovahs.

  clear warnings?.

  (the watchtower - july 15, 2011).

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  Black Man

  The WTS will regret this. Instead of taking such an arrogant, dictatorial, dogmatic approach, they should try to understand WHY there are so many apostates. Most so-called "Apostates" have been people who have been HURT by members and policies of the WTS. If they were really of GOD, that would be their approach, but like with most cults its about control - hence this ignorant, arrogant fear-mongering.